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Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:15 pm

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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:48 pm

As an Admin on a discussion board, the issue of freedom of speech is a major one, but where does one draw the line?

Well. let me show you where I have drawn it. Straight out personal attacks are not acceptable here. I will not delete them, but edit them, often to say completely the opposite. It's quite possible that I may delete simple shit talk, but again it is more likely that I will edit it.

As a case in point, someone posted as D and simply waffled on a lot of puerile and pornographic nonsense. I merely edited the post (read re´wrote the post) to reflect my opinion of D.

But apart from that, people are quite at liberty to discuss anything they want and express any opinion they like whether I personally agree with it or not. After all, who really wants to debate something with someone when they simply agree with your point of view? Real thinking can only occur when your position is challenged and you are forced to defend it and, perish the thought, actually consider someone else's position.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by a eek! on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:04 pm

i'm all for free speech on a forum, but i don't agree to allowing others to take your user name and mis-represent you with it . that's just encouraging trouble . I also don't agree with threats and doxing or any other releases that aren't permissioned . you make for a sound admin, mom.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:08 pm



I should also have mentioned that posting of personal information in any shape or form and personal communications without the consent of all parties involved is strictly verboten, but I figured most people already know that. But there it is in black and white.

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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Sarah522 on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:25 pm

I'm all for freedom of speech, and I'm all for everyone expressing their opinions.

That's not to say I never wish that some people would just SHUT UP!

Seriously though, it irks me that people can't have a civil debate without turning it into WWIII and personal attacks. It gets so tiresome and is why I mostly stick to cat threads. Cats don't judge.

Omg, what did I just say? Cats are the most judgmental people on earth!

Anyway, my feelings get hurt too easily, so I ignore a lot, but everyone has a right to their own opinions. Just don't attack me if I disagree.



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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by a eek! on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:33 pm

who would want to attack you, sarah? i find you to be very pleasant.

and i have to say, only fools pay to tread on others... and only the lowest of the low admins promote it.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Sarah522 on Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:19 am

a eek! wrote:who would want to attack you, sarah? i find you to be very pleasant.

Aw, thanks, whoever you are...

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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Kanigo2 on Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:40 am



Internet police swat team!!!
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by kal______________________ on Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:43 am

Delusional reinforcement. YM just do what you want and don't bother lying about it after the fact. You're a fucking idiot just like the rest. No need for explanation. It's your farm and you're the volunteer sheepdog.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:55 am

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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Frigg Stuyvesant on Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:42 pm

kal______________________ wrote:Delusional reinforcement.  YM just do what you want and don't bother lying about it after the fact.  You're a fucking idiot just like the rest.  No need for explanation.  It's your farm and you're the volunteer sheepdog.


Why do you always metastasize onto forums ?


You are like that swipe of shit some punk leaves in the bathroom stall at a shitty restaurant. If you don't like it please fuck off. Why aren't you over at Dutch Donation Dump choking on FF's cock and strutting your stuff? You are the "look what happened to Dutch Donation Dump" posterchild. You are perfect for LOPs current direction. Witless pernicious and vicious lacking any redeeming human qualities. A shitstorm of vile vicissitudes and misdirection with which you prey on everyone you meet. A sociopathic predator with an imaginary axe to grind no matter where you go. Forum cyanide.

Your mother should drowned you.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by kal_____________________ on Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:58 pm

Why are you always butting in during banter between other men? Oh lawd. This isn't the military and/or your radio show.

Boo hoo.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:05 pm

Frigg, whilst it's true that Kal is full of vinegar, piss and vitriol, he has yet to say or do anything here that is worthy of censuring, let alone banning and while he stays within the guidelines I've laid out, he is free to post here.

I offer a platform for free speech even, perhaps especially, for that with which I disagree. I don't like what he has to say and think he is delusional and wallowing in the excrement of his own immutable beliefs that I feel he needs pity more than anything else.

I shan't ask you to cease and desist, but if he reacts in kind I shall not ask him to either. Were things to escalate, that would be another story.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by absurdious on Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:49 pm

It only offends me when it's offensive.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:55 pm

Is it offensive to call a faggot a faggot?
Is it offensive for a negro to call a caucasian snowflake or a Caucasian to call a negro a nigger?

For me it all depends on the intent behind the the words. Here in Brazil, negão, or big nigger is a very common term of endearment and is used not only for negroes, but other races as well, but, if used with mal intent, offence will be taken.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by absurdious on Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:59 pm

Nigger, cunt, faggot. Great bit by Louis C.K.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by TCnli on Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:16 pm

Free Speech does not offend me.

However, others' commentary can be misinformed, and I enjoy the opportunity to debate, object and correct it...

Or just plain argue. Obviously, there is always a very slim chance that my opinion could be maligned.

Seriously though, censorship or second party editorial does offend me (unless it is necessary to protect people's safety or maintain legality).

You shouldn't do that in any circumstance YM imo. ...or at least not use that as a selling point of this forum.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:03 pm

I don't quite follow, TC. Are you suggesting I am trying to use second party editorial as a selling point?
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by TCnli on Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:13 am

Yes, you said that you had changed bad/naughty posts or something to that effect.  Forgive me if I have misread you.  I reckon you should just let the shit fly as long as it doesn't cause danger/harm/break the law etc.  Reading the unfiltered drivel of some esteemed posters is always more chuckle-worthy than the proposed alternative.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:24 pm

You did indeed misread me. I certainly wasn't trying to use that as a selling point. And do you really want to read some knuckle dragger claim they are D and how gay they are and how much they enjoy sucking cock and taking it up the arse? Or how much someone hates someone and wishes they were dead? Maybe you do!
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by TCnli on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:32 pm

Yes - I do want that and I want to be able to choose if I will read it or not.

I think you're doing a great job here Mom but if you censor - you're on a slippery slope imo.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by TCnli on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:34 pm

I should add - If you must censor - either make the process completely overt i.e. explain what was said and why it was edited/deleted or refrain, otherwise we are back to square one.

Just my 2 (insert lowest denomination of Brazilian currency here)
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:35 pm

Well, if the majority of posters agree with you, I'll let it stand and leave well enough alone. Let's see what, if any reaction is generated.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by Your Mom on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:40 pm

TCnli wrote:I should add - If you must censor - either make the process completely overt i.e. explain what was said and why it was edited/deleted or refrain, otherwise we are back to square one.

Just my 2 (insert lowest denomination of Brazilian currency here)

Sounds reasonable. I could always leave the original text behind hide tags (called spoiler here).

Sometimes I'll fuck around with people, like Kal, for instance.
Yesterday, he posted a picture in the random humour thread and I put it behind closed tags, citing inappropriate content. I'm waiting for him to demand to know what was inappropriate about it.
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Re: Does Free Speech Offend You?

Post by TCnli on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:46 pm


"Sounds reasonable. I could always leave the original text behind hide tags (called spoiler here).

Sometimes I'll fuck around with people, like Kal, for instance.
Yesterday, he posted a picture in the random humour thread and I put it behind closed tags, citing inappropriate content. I'm waiting for him to demand to know what was inappropriate about it."

Spoiler idea - sounds totally reasonable. Spare the blushes of your/our more sensitive readers.

And fucking with Kal always seems like a good idea to me - total fucking anal cunt that he is Wink

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